Romans 8:15-17 For ye have no… God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Is there no one who can do anything for me? Not trouble, not hard times, not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not bullying threats, not backstabbing, not even the worst sins listed in Scripture: They kill us in cold blood because they hate you.We’re sitting ducks; they pick us off one by one. And this made us all the more rebellious. Conference Message. 8 But God put his love on the line for us by offering his Son in sacrificial death while we were of no use whatever to him. By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. I’m absolutely convinced that nothing—nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable—absolutely nothing can get between us and God’s love because of the way that Jesus our Master has embraced us. I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. The created world itself can hardly wait for what’s coming next. Treasuring Christ and the Call to Suffer Part 1. 15-17 This resurrection life you received from God is not a timid, grave-tending life. Those who enter into Christ’s being-here-for-us no longer have to live under a continuous, low-lying black cloud. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.”. The grand theme is assurance, from ‘no condemnation’ at the start to ‘no separation’ at the end of the chapter. 22-25 All around us we observe a pregnant creation. It would be easy to select just about any verse from chapter 8 to be on the list. Romans 12:7-8 - We look today at the gifts of teaching, exhortation, giving, mercy, leading and serving. But the law code itself is God’s good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel. Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. Apart from the succinct, surgical command, “You shall not covet,” I could have dressed covetousness up to look like a virtue and ruined my life with it. Apr 8, 2008. Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. The Spirit of God is arousing us within. In between, the argument progresses in two main stages with a conclusion. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. This is part two of my series the “Four Season of Life.” Last week I talked about our spiritual winters and this morning we will be examining our spiritual fall. Scripture: Romans 8:1–35. So if I can’t be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God’s command is necessary. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. The Son stands first in the line of humanity he restored. I can will it, but I can’t do it. Romans 10 teaches the word of faith. The Spirit of life in Christ, like a strong wind, has magnificently cleared the air, freeing you from a fated lifetime of brutal tyranny at the hands of sin and death. I’m at the end of my rope. Scripture: James 4:7-8; Romans 12:2; 2 Corinthians 4:16-18. Romans 7 New American Standard Bible (NASB) Believers United to Christ. The law is good. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? Romans 2:7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life (NASB: Lockman). These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? First 30-days on us! But for you who welcome him, in whom he dwells—even though you still experience all the limitations of sin—you yourself experience life on God’s terms. Dec 9, 2001. That’s certainly not true. 25 The answer, thank God, is that Jesus Christ can and does. Obsession with self in these matters is a dead end; attention to God leads us out into the open, into a spacious, free life. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. Dealing with Romans 8:4-7, the flesh opposed to the Spirit. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. We go through exactly what Christ goes through. So if I can’t be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God’s command is necessary. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. After God made that decision of what his children should be like, he followed it up by calling people by name. That's why Romans 5:8 points to the death of Christ. IV. I’m doing God a favor.” Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, c | The Message (MSG) | Download The Bible App Now John Piper ... Sep 21, 1980 37 Shares Sermon. This is a combined, edited version of two articles that were first published in Norwegian: “Do you believe Romans 8:28?” from BCC’s periodical “Skjulte Skatter”(“Hidden Treasures”) in June 1949, and a transcript from a message by Elias Aslaksen in January 1976, “Everything Works Together for … 29-30 God knew what he was doing from the very beginning. Romans 10:16 "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. By confessing with our mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and by believing this in our hearts, we are saved—nothing more, nothing less. As a recap from last week, I told you that the Holy Spirit gave me an analogy about how we experience spiritual seasons. To understand how the gifts of the Spirit are to operate in a local fellowship of Christians. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. 24 I’ve tried everything and nothing helps. That is what the gospel is all about -- freedom! He knows us far better than we know ourselves, knows our pregnant condition, and keeps us present before God. He didn’t deal with the problem as something remote and unimportant. Romans is the fort Knox of the Christians faith, written to the center of the Roman civilization, it is the doctrine of the gospel – the problem with mankind and the living hope in Christ. Defeated by the Law Romans 7:14-25. The text says this: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be. And God isn’t pleased at being ignored. 9-11 But if God himself has taken up residence in your life, you can hardly be thinking more of yourself than of him. For if I know the law but still can’t keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! Upgrade to Bible Gateway Plus, and access the NEW NIV Study Bible Notes, Fully Revised Edition. 6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.” That’s certainly not true. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. 17-20 But I need something more! I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. Paul reveals to us that salvation is about grace alone, about faith in what He has done – “the righteous shall live by faith.” We are not speaking about that. Dr. Packer teaches in a very realistic method emulating the old Puritan way, and brings a good message for the Church today. That’s why we can be so sure that every detail in our lives of love for God is worked into something good. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. And then, after getting them established, he stayed with them to the end, gloriously completing what he had begun. Scripture: Romans 6:1–14. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. Leave a comment with your favorite verse if it is not listed here. There’s nothing in it for us, nothing at all. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. Utterly unfounded, in fine, is the objection of clumsiness (Hofmann); the symmetrical fulness of Romans 2:7-8, has a certain solemnity about it. Amplified: To those who by patient persistence in well-doing [springing from piety] seek [unseen but sure] glory and honor and [the eternal … Copyright © 1993, 2002, 2018 by Eugene H. Peterson, The Message (MSG). I do, perfectly well. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?" 5-8 Those who think they can do it on their own end up obsessed with measuring their own moral muscle but never get around to exercising it in real life. John Piper Dec 9, 2001 491 Shares Sermon. But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. Romans 7:5; Romans 7:8 Read chapter in The Message Bible. What Does It Mean to Fulfill the Law in Romans 8:3–4? 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? Scripture: Romans 8:3–4. Twelve Theses. Romans 7:8: But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. Union with Christ: Mind-Renewing Foundations Desiring God 2014 Conference for Pastors. I realize that I don’t have what it takes. Romans 8:7-8 is often used to defend the Calvinistic doctrines of Total Depravity and total inability. What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. Those who trust God’s action in them find that God’s Spirit is in them—living and breathing God! Is there no one who can do anything for me? 8 ThereisthereforenownocondemnationforthosewhoareinChristJesus.12 ForthelawofhtheSpiritoflifeiha… He decided from the outset to shape the lives of those who love him along the same lines as the life of his Son. Paul emphasizes this in our text with a series of synonyms: we were helpless (5:6); ungodly (5:6); sinners (5:8); and, enemies (5:10). There is no way! God’s Spirit beckons. For apart from the law, sin was dead. Do you think anyone is going to be able to drive a wedge between us and Christ’s love for us? Underlying question to this chapter that is still bothering some of you Jews, “Is the believer under the law?” Already told you Romans … But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. Contemporary Comparative Side-by-Side Bible (NIV, NKJV, NLT, THE Message), The Message Pocket Paperback Edition: New Testament, Psalms and Proverbs, The Message Raspberry Blossom, Personal Size + Topical Concordance, The Message Gift and Award Bible, Imitation Leather, Burgundy, The Message, Numbered Edition, Personal Size, with Topical Concordance, The Message Deluxe Gift Bible, Brown/Saddle Tan Leather-Look. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong. The One who died for us—who was raised to life for us!—is in the presence of God at this very moment sticking up for us. It’s adventurously expectant, greeting God with a childlike “What’s next, Papa?” God’s Spirit touches our spirits and confirms who we really are. Greek: tois men kath hupomonen ergou agathou doxan kai timen kai aphtharsian zetousin (PAPMPD) zoen aionion,. FROM TEXT TO TEACHING: ROMANS 8 Getting the Message Clear: The Theme. Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. Freedom from self-centeredness, freedom from hostility and bitterness,freedom from anxiety and all kinds of fears, freedo… And now what the law code asked for but we couldn’t deliver is accomplished as we, instead of redoubling our own efforts, simply embrace what the Spirit is doing in us. The good news is not only a gracious offer but a command to believe and repent. Free from Sin, Slaves of Righteousness, Part 1 What is the Meaning of "Under Law" and "Under Grace"? What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. The first stage is verses 1-17, whose focus is the ministry of the Spirit. 31-39 So, what do you think? Those who enter into Christ’s being-here-for-us no longer have to live under a continuous, low-lying black cloud. Before we look at these terms, note: If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she’s obviously an adulteress. The law always ended up being used as a Band-Aid on sin instead of a deep healing of it. If we go through the hard times with him, then we’re certainly going to go through the good times with him! 26-28 Meanwhile, the moment we get tired in the waiting, God’s Spirit is right alongside helping us along. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.”. The Flesh and the Spirit. 14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: “I know that all God’s commands are spiritual, but I’m not. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she’s obviously an adulteress. We, of course, don’t see what is enlarging us. Thus sin, the sting of death, received force or advantage to destroy by the commandment, Romans 7:8, Romans 7:11. A new power is in operation. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. Died To The Law - Romans 7:1-6 A. κ. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? We know who he is, and we know who we are: Father and children. He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. Next message: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Previous message: Carl W. Conrad: "Fwd: Re: Iliad/ Odyssey" Next in thread: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Maybe reply: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Messages sorted by: [ attachment ] Mail actions: [ respond to this message ] [ mail a new topic ] Paul explains how that happened in Romans 5:6-8. They kill us in cold blood because they hate you. But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. 18-21 That’s why I don’t think there’s any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. Romans 7:8. But it’s not only around us; it’s within us. I’m at the end of my rope. With God on our side like this, how can we lose? Anyone, of course, who has not welcomed this invisible but clearly present God, the Spirit of Christ, won’t know what we’re talking about. Focusing on the self is the opposite of focusing on God. I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. Isn’t that the real question? In Context Parallel Compare. We’re sitting ducks; they pick us off one by one. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. It stands to reason, doesn’t it, that if the alive-and-present God who raised Jesus from the dead moves into your life, he’ll do the same thing in you that he did in Jesus, bringing you alive to himself? Anyone completely absorbed in self ignores God, ends up thinking more about self than God. Is good just as dangerous as evil?” No again! And who would dare tangle with God by messing with one of God’s chosen? 2 For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death. 17-20 But I need something more! When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to “marry” a resurrection life and bear “offspring” of faith for God. We are enlarged in the waiting. That person ignores who God is and what he is doing. 8 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. III. Delivered by the Spirit Romans 8:1-4. And we know we are going to get what’s coming to us—an unbelievable inheritance! We’re also feeling the birth pangs. * 1 Hence, now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. However, here are some of the most loved verses. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens. All manner of concupiscence - It showed what was evil and forbade it; and then the principle of rebellion, which seems essential to the very nature of sins rose up against the prohibition; and he was the more strongly incited to disobey in proportion as obedience was enjoined. 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. If we don’t know how or what to pray, it doesn’t matter. Reiche and Hofmann, following Oecumenius, (616) Estius, and others, arrange it so that to δόξαν κ. τι΄. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. I realize that I don’t have what it takes. Romans 5:8 teaches us that the heart of God's love for us is, while we were sinners, Christ died for us. If God didn’t hesitate to put everything on the line for us, embracing our condition and exposing himself to the worst by sending his own Son, is there anything else he wouldn’t gladly and freely do for us? CHAPTER 8. My decisions, such as they are, don’t result in actions. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. Feb 4, 2014. I can will it, but I can’t do it. He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different. 12-14 So don’t you see that we don’t owe this old do-it-yourself life one red cent. Jesus laid down his life for us. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. Conference Message. For without the law sin was dead. Apart from the succinct, surgical command, “You shall not covet,” I could have dressed covetousness up to look like a virtue and ruined my life with it. This is the central declaration of the gospel: Christ has come, he has died, he has risen again, and he has come into our hearts by means of the Holy Spirit in order that we who believe in him might be free. Authority Of Law - Romans 7:1. In his Son, Jesus, he personally took on the human condition, entered the disordered mess of struggling humanity in order to set it right once and for all. Copyright © 1993, 2002, 2018 by Eugene H. Peterson, The Message (MSG). None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. To get a more biblical philosophy of the church. That’s certainly not true. The Solution Is Life on God’s Terms. But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For if I know the law but still can’t keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! Romans 7-8 The Message (MSG) Torn Between One Way and Another. Isn’t that the real question? Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. My decisions, such as they are, don’t result in actions. 7 We can understand someone dying for a person worth dying for, and we can understand how someone good and noble could inspire us to selfless sacrifice. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. When God lives and breathes in you (and he does, as surely as he did in Jesus), you are delivered from that dead life. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. Isn’t this also your experience?” Yes. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:7-8). Is good just as dangerous as evil?” No again! Jesus laid down his life for you. 7 Or do you not know, brothers and sisters (for I am speaking to those who know the [] Law), that the [] Law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 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